Full Circle Podcast #8: More Opinion Than You Can Handle
In this episode, Dave and Ed argue about evolution… of Ubuntu One and Lubuntu.
News: Mostly Maverick Development.
Games: Ed’s been reviewing Osmos, but playing on an X-Box; Dave reviews a Nexus One Android phone.
Opinion: Why we need Lubuntu
Interview: Part I of the Lubuntu Project
Opinion: What services do we want in UbuntuOne
Keynote: Part II of Mark Shuttleworth’s keynote from UDS
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Your Hosts:
- Robin Catling (blog at http://catlingmindswipe.blogspot.com/)
- Ed Hewitt (blog at http://www.edhewitt.co.uk/)
- Dave Wilkins… is, in fact, Spartacus
Additional audio by Victoria Pritchard
Show Notes
01.46 | WELCOME and INTRO
02.22 | SINCE LAST TIME…
Ed: Got distracted by Red Dead Redemption by Rockstar Games on X-Box for the Side-Pod Review.
Dave: Played with the Nexus One smart-phone for this episode’s review.
Robin: We recorded and released a ‘Side-Pod’; sorry to the early birds who found the feed botched – my goof, now corrected. [RC]
Revamped the blog using some newer features.
Picked over the whole Google-TV hype
Failed to install FreeBSD
04.10 | REVIEW: We highlight Issue #37 of Full Circle Magazine.
- Opinion – Helping NEw Users by Gord Campbell.
- Review – Lubuntu 10.04 by Dan and Robin.
- How-to – Media streaming by Phil Kramer.
06.38 | NEWS: Mostly Maverick development
- Application Menu now in testing
(http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/ubuntu-1010-application-menu-available.html) - New Network Applet in testing
(http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/help-test-ubuntu-1010s-proposed-network.html) - History added to Software Center
(http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/history-comes-to-maverick-software.html) - Faster and colourful Calculator!
- (http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/history-comes-to-maverick-software.html)
- Plans for Maverick
- (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue195)
Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter - BTRFS is candidate file-system for Maverick
- Breaking news: Maverick Alpha 1 Released
18.19 | OUR OPINION – Lubuntu
Do we need another ‘Buntu distribution?
Harking back to the “How Many Distro’s is Too Many” question (also published in FCM Issue #18!)
24.56 | CONTRIBUTE
Because Victoria asks so nicely…
25.30 | INTERVIEW: Lubuntu Team interview
In Part One, Mario Behling and Hong Phuc Dong introduce the Lubuntu Project
38.00 | OPINION: Ubuntu-One
What new services would you like to see next in Ubuntu One?
46.34 | GAMING:
Thanks to Hemisphere [link] for OSMOS [link] review copy [Ed]
(http://www.hemispheregames.com/osmos/)
47.18 | Not Gaming – Review of the Nexus One [Dave]
A transcript of Dave’s review piece is attached as an Open Office Document for the sake of your sanity.
53.15 | GUEST SPOT: Keynote – Mark Shuttleworth at UDS
Part 2: Indicators, Windicators, RGB client-side decorations (alpha-channel support), sound controls, multi-nationl support, Intel connection manager – Ethernet, Wifi, Wi-max, bluetooth. Fonts. Release of 10.10 is the answer – the meaning of life the universe and everything.
(Audio courtesy of Alan Pope)
Full speech (video): http://blip.tv/file/3601671
All UDS session audio and video:
Audio: http://uds.ubuntu.com/audio/uds-m
Video: http://videos.ubuntu.com/uds/maverick/
1:09.12 | FEEDBACK:
1:25.39 | WRAP and OUTRO
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Steve Barcomb
on Jun 14th, 2010
@ 9:13 am:
Great stuff guys. This is becoming one of my favorite podcasts. Keep up the great work!
Robin Catling
on Jul 6th, 2010
@ 5:09 am:
We received this reply via the email from Lubuntu Development lead Julien Lavergne:
From: Julien Lavergne
To: letters@fullcirclemagazine.org
Hi,
I’ll would like to thank you for the talk about Lubuntu. It’s nice to see people interesting in this project
I just would like to add some comments about this episode :
About the need or not for another *buntu :
I don’t think another one is a bad thing
There are already plenty of the *buntu flavor (Netbook editions, Studio, Mythbuntu, Edubuntu …). Check the http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ for a complete list
About the Lubuntu / Xubuntu :
Lubuntu was not created to be a replacement of Xubuntu, or to be better than any *buntu.
2 goals of Lubuntu are to :
- Create a Ubuntu flavor based on the LXDE desktop.
- Create a lightweight distribution using Ubuntu.
The goal of Xubuntu is to be a full replacement of Ubuntu, using Xfce desktop. Lubuntu is a lightweight desktop, but not a full replacement. We focus on main features and performances. It’s also difficult to compare Xubuntu and Lubuntu. Xubuntu have more manpower, more features,
more integration in Ubuntu etc … Xubuntu is also aware of the performance problem, I’m sure there are working on it, but it’s harder when you have a bigger community.
About the confusion because of too much choice :
In those cases, it’s better to have more choices
Please keep in mind that most users just use Ubuntu, not other flavors
Chrome is not included, it’s Chromium, the open-source version
On Lubuntu derivated, as long as they mention they are based on Lubuntu, it’s fine. If they can contribute patches back upstream, it’s better
For example, Peppermint devs send me a patch for inclusion in Lubuntu, and I was happy to include it. Like this, all Lubuntu users and all
derivated gained a fix, and Peppermint devs doesn’t need to maintain this difference with us.
Regards,
Julien Lavergne
Ruby Jones
on Jul 11th, 2010
@ 5:40 am:
Wimax offer more bandwidth and more services than traditional microwave communications. ;*.